Perfect: succinct and clear. It is ironic that Islamic elites use neo-Marxist victimhood tropes to divert attention away from critique of their own dysfunctional societies, and focus the rage of their underclass against Jews, Israel, or the West.
this is SUPERBLY written and stated. (I've been in U.S. graduate school academic circles (was grad student) and also have lived overseas, quite some time in the "Middle East".) Tremendously impressed by this to the point I will share it with my ex Professors. Now a huge fan.
Zineb identifies the structural pathology correctly: decolonial ideology as an imported grammar that arrests self-examination. But the import metaphor overstates the West’s role. This language found such fertile ground because the underlying sensibility was already there. The West didn’t invent this. It gave it a graduate school vocabulary.
In Turkish, there is a phrase that cuts through all of this: mazlum edebiyatı (the literature of the wronged). It names a cultural mode in which the performance of suffering becomes a source of moral authority. The mazlum (the wronged one) earns prestige not by building or confronting reality, but by narrating his wound. The wound is the credential. Grievance is the currency. To question it is to become the oppressor. This is not a Western import. It predates Fanon and Said by centuries. What critical theory did was not introduce this sensibility; it legitimized it for export.
But who does the exporting? Look at the architects of this tradition. Edward Said was the son of a prosperous Palestinian-Egyptian businessman, educated at Victoria College and Princeton. Rashid Khalidi comes from one of Jerusalem’s oldest notable families, literal Ottoman-era aristocracy. This is not coincidence. It is a pattern.
These are rentiers: people who inherit accumulated social and cultural capital and live off its yield. The family has already paid for the prestige. The academic position is the dividend. But genuine truth-telling would be existential threat. To speak honestly about Palestinian political dysfunction or Arab institutional decay would be to saw off the branch they sit on. Their prestige is borrowed from the very societies whose pathologies they are positioned to explain, and implicitly, to excuse.
What they do instead is perform mazlum edebiyatı at the highest register: wrapping native grievance in Western theoretical legitimacy and selling it back in both directions. Western audiences receive it as authentic native testimony. Home societies receive it as external validation. The rentier lives in Cambridge or Paris, collects speaking fees, and tells the dispossessed that their condition is permanent and structural and someone else’s fault. Which means no one, least of all the intellectual himself, needs to do anything difficult.
The decolonial delusion persists not primarily because people are confused. It persists because a specific class of people benefits from the confusion. The Western academy is the laundromat. The source is older: a native tradition of weaponized suffering that found, in postmodern critical theory, its most sophisticated and globally legible form.
Y Roso, that was quite brilliant, thank you, it was on a par with our authors pronouncements.
“Ours is a problem in which deception has become organized and strong; where truth is poisoned at the source; one in which the skills of the shrewdest brains are devoted to the misleading of a bewildered people.”
We need more analyses that tie ideologies to the unhealthy character traits they engender (resistance to self-examination and eternal victimhood in this case).
Palestinianism is anti-israel anti-jew anti-zionist framing themselves as the eternal victim of a war that they started over and over, the Arab cries out, the Jew hit me back, the Jews have been the victims and despite what some rabbis say that are completely Fringe and anti-zionist Zionism means that we're not waiting for God to create a Homeland and every inch of Israel is legitimate and the world wines endlessly and indulges the palestinianists in perpetuity with funding their perpetual fuckery to the amusement of all those who are pre-wired to be triggered by Jews and them having sovereignty in the nation of their own creation with complete and utter justification.
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Gaza is precisely what the Western left says it hates: a racist, sexist, homophobic, militaristic, anti-Democratic, kleptocratic, dogmatically religious police state of science fictional inequity and oppression. And they love it more than anything in the world.
Onward with your curse as you pray to your Jewish failed Messiah and realize the reason it's called the crucifix is because if it was real it would be called the crucifact. May 5785 continue to chap your hide 🤢
Is this not also the posture of many Zionists who make excuses for Israel's brutality through a victim narrative, one so complete in its narcissism it cannot admit any other people has ever suffered a genocide or that Jews in the Middle East can learn from anyone else's experience? Was this same grievance ideology not the foundation of the original fascist regimes of the early 20th century? In fact I might argue that the failure of fascism to take root in the English speaking works during the Depression has less to do with anti-fascists holding the line at Cable Street or Smedley Butler heroically reporting the Business Plot to Congress, than the fact that Anglos at the time had little interest in narratives of their own victimization.
you yet another version of the gassiest windbag version of Islamic deflectionism 🙄 and Israel derangement syndrome 😆🤭😜🤫🧠🤏
Gaza is precisely what the Western left says it hates: a racist, sexist, homophobic, militaristic, anti-Democratic, kleptocratic, dogmatically religious police state of science fictional inequity and oppression. And they love it more than anything in the world.
This is exactly the sort of moral idiocy I keep pointing out. Me good, them bad. Good people. Bad people. Good people. Bad people. They’re Bad, Bad, Bad, therefore we Good people don’t owe them any responsibility.
Can I interest you in some relics that signify and glorify European irrationality
The crown of thorns
A piece of the cross
Blood of Christ
The nappies of the infant Jesus
Another piece of the cross
Blood from a picture of Christ
The chain
Sacred cloth inserted in a picture
Stone from the tomb
Milk of the Virgin Mary
The spear
A victorious cross (Titulus)
The purple mantle
The reed
The sponge
A part of Christ's shroud (sudarii)
The towel used to dry the Apostles' feet
Moses' rod
A part of John the Baptist's head
St. Blas' head
St. Clement's head
St. Simeon's head
My favorite that's not on the list was the bottled last breath of St Philip, and hear you are of that genealogy coming at Jews with a chip on your shoulder and a sense of superiority and knowledge yet you're an ignorant cunt
lmao, you think you can upset me by blaspheming Christianity? I’ve never been a Christian, I’ve rocked out to metal music with far more obscene blasphemies than you could ever come up with. And just like I’m not a Christian, I never said anything about Jews, but about ISRAEL, which is a state that more than half of the world’s Jews don’t even live in! The crybullying of Israel’s apologists grows ever shriller, but nobody gives a fuck anymore. We’ve heard it all before. Now that the Trump administration is destroying what’s left of America’s alliance and trade system, Israel is out of friends and out of options. America can’t protect them. The world has no sympathy for them, especially not Russia and China. Many of their best and most talented citizens are leaving for the west. If Israel does not come to some sort of modus vivendi with Levantine Muslims soon, it will go the way of Rhodesia.
Well said. Thank you. Ideologies that build on resentment and a pure division between good and evil players don't lead to a good outcome. Nevertheless they are very attractive for the reasons you state above. We see this with Marxism (and the current neo-Marxism) and with radical Islam. Highly recommend the book, Black Wave, by Kim Ghattras. It talks about the ideas and philosophies stemming from many sources over decades that eventually led to the tyrannical Islamic Republic in Iran. These ideas also destabilized other Middle Eastern countries (Lebanon, Pakistan) in horrific ways. When I see this kind of ideology gaining traction anywhere, particularly in countries without a strong democratic tradition, I have a sinking feeling.
I would say that 90% of western people view the Muslims of the Middle East, with all their chanting and demonstrations in the streets, as being unstable idiots, incapable of managing themselves. There is some justification for this.
Decolonizing methodologies do not involve cultural appropriation, lies, deception nor conveniently misreading colonial history.
That's the trouble with Pro- Palestinian discourse.
Israel was not a colonial power that stole Arab land and then subjected them. That's simply a false narrative. A colonial people do not arrive as refugees and genocide survivors. They don't arrive landless , buy land parcels collectively for mutual survival. Its a big stretch to condemn 'settler colonialsm' when the land you are buying is your ancestral homeland, and when your people have lived continuously there for millenia, the evidence surrounding you and in the very place names. Colonial powers subjugate native populations by imposed government and social structures upon them. The Ottomans and Arab Caliphates were colonial powers for 1200 years who subjected and exploited both the Arab Fellahin and non Muslim communities. The Arab-Palestinian Muslims are in fact the colonial population, having dominant status for centuries indeed, it is the loss of that political status and religious dominance that produced their greatest opposition. The Arab population simply could not share land rights and political power with non-Muslims and ethnic minorities. The same thing happened when Britain vacated India, except Pakistani Muslims had the sense to accept partition, in fact chose it. Instead , Arab leadership declared war and tried to erase Israel out of sight. This created the Nakba. Their big lie is that it was all Israel's fault. Settler conialsm pushed Arabs off their land. Actually , the land was never theirs. It belong to the Sultan, leased or sold only by his grace and favour. It was the Sultan who violated Arab miri rights and allowed the land to be sold, many Fellahin displaced.
Palestinian discourse appropriates Jewish history as a way of erasing it. Canaan becomes Palestine, Arabs become indigenous, the original Jews of Canaan- which is an unethical , false ,misread of genetics. They also misapply Holocaust lexicon to themselves while trying to remove it from Jewish history...ghetto, concentration camp, famine, genocide. Some Western personalities take the lead here, Yanis Varoufakis, Finklestein, Bartov. They assert a form of Jewish Holocaust denial , mainly so that actual history doesn't interfere with their false polemic. But they freely apply the Jewish experience to Palestinians- a deceptive inversion of the facts. The only Holocaust industry was in Germany, and those anti -zionist writers know it full well. Jesus was not a Muslim Palestinian, as has been said all over social media. Jesus was Joshua, a practicing Jew. Many westerners actually don't know that and don't care. We lost the religious foundations of a moral compass. So lies slip into the Palestine sympathy campaign quite easily.
Debunking another lie, there are no genocide charges against Israel - the ICJ rejected them. However, not before the propagandists picked it up and went with it. The accusation is everywhere but it's purely a linguistic weapon without substance. It's propaganda. Also, it conveniently ignores that Hamas used the entire civilian population as human shields.
Yes. Decolonizing as resistance is a lie making Israelis oppressors of the ethnic Arab population.
So well written it's quotable. Whilst there is merit in both self-reflection and a more complete international understanding of the interactions of different cultures - history as a morality-play is simplistic to the point of self-deceiving and this is no-where truer than seeing Russia - the world's longest enduring, largest and mostly northerly empire, remaking its image as somehow part of the victimised 'global south'.
Brilliant! You are totally right, voicing concerns I also had on the 'decolonial moment' that we now face. This decolonial 'thinking' has gone berserk, and is leading people into a cultural and intellectual void and will not further the causes of reason and justice.
Perfect: succinct and clear. It is ironic that Islamic elites use neo-Marxist victimhood tropes to divert attention away from critique of their own dysfunctional societies, and focus the rage of their underclass against Jews, Israel, or the West.
You linked the woke dei culture of the west with the middle east in way i never thought of. And it makes so much sense. Beautiful.
this is SUPERBLY written and stated. (I've been in U.S. graduate school academic circles (was grad student) and also have lived overseas, quite some time in the "Middle East".) Tremendously impressed by this to the point I will share it with my ex Professors. Now a huge fan.
Brilliant. Deep and original insight. Thank you.
Zineb identifies the structural pathology correctly: decolonial ideology as an imported grammar that arrests self-examination. But the import metaphor overstates the West’s role. This language found such fertile ground because the underlying sensibility was already there. The West didn’t invent this. It gave it a graduate school vocabulary.
In Turkish, there is a phrase that cuts through all of this: mazlum edebiyatı (the literature of the wronged). It names a cultural mode in which the performance of suffering becomes a source of moral authority. The mazlum (the wronged one) earns prestige not by building or confronting reality, but by narrating his wound. The wound is the credential. Grievance is the currency. To question it is to become the oppressor. This is not a Western import. It predates Fanon and Said by centuries. What critical theory did was not introduce this sensibility; it legitimized it for export.
But who does the exporting? Look at the architects of this tradition. Edward Said was the son of a prosperous Palestinian-Egyptian businessman, educated at Victoria College and Princeton. Rashid Khalidi comes from one of Jerusalem’s oldest notable families, literal Ottoman-era aristocracy. This is not coincidence. It is a pattern.
These are rentiers: people who inherit accumulated social and cultural capital and live off its yield. The family has already paid for the prestige. The academic position is the dividend. But genuine truth-telling would be existential threat. To speak honestly about Palestinian political dysfunction or Arab institutional decay would be to saw off the branch they sit on. Their prestige is borrowed from the very societies whose pathologies they are positioned to explain, and implicitly, to excuse.
What they do instead is perform mazlum edebiyatı at the highest register: wrapping native grievance in Western theoretical legitimacy and selling it back in both directions. Western audiences receive it as authentic native testimony. Home societies receive it as external validation. The rentier lives in Cambridge or Paris, collects speaking fees, and tells the dispossessed that their condition is permanent and structural and someone else’s fault. Which means no one, least of all the intellectual himself, needs to do anything difficult.
The decolonial delusion persists not primarily because people are confused. It persists because a specific class of people benefits from the confusion. The Western academy is the laundromat. The source is older: a native tradition of weaponized suffering that found, in postmodern critical theory, its most sophisticated and globally legible form.
Y Roso, that was quite brilliant, thank you, it was on a par with our authors pronouncements.
“Ours is a problem in which deception has become organized and strong; where truth is poisoned at the source; one in which the skills of the shrewdest brains are devoted to the misleading of a bewildered people.”
Walter Lipman , his book Politics, 1913
We need more analyses that tie ideologies to the unhealthy character traits they engender (resistance to self-examination and eternal victimhood in this case).
Palestinianism is anti-israel anti-jew anti-zionist framing themselves as the eternal victim of a war that they started over and over, the Arab cries out, the Jew hit me back, the Jews have been the victims and despite what some rabbis say that are completely Fringe and anti-zionist Zionism means that we're not waiting for God to create a Homeland and every inch of Israel is legitimate and the world wines endlessly and indulges the palestinianists in perpetuity with funding their perpetual fuckery to the amusement of all those who are pre-wired to be triggered by Jews and them having sovereignty in the nation of their own creation with complete and utter justification.
66
Gaza is precisely what the Western left says it hates: a racist, sexist, homophobic, militaristic, anti-Democratic, kleptocratic, dogmatically religious police state of science fictional inequity and oppression. And they love it more than anything in the world.
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Abe Greenwald
Executive Editor of Commentary Magazine
Perfect formulation by Alan
Gaslighting is so typical of the unwitted McTards, were your parents both cousins and alcoholics?
Maybe you could breed with a Gaza Arab and increase your genetic stock.
Simple ideas tend to confound goitards who've never been outside their Nazi glory hole bubble and always reveal themselves as dumb fuck cunts.
Not only was shitlers Mom the Town bicycle he was a gay prostitute in Vienna who was banging his niece who was younger and killed herself.
https://youtu.be/A7xsdHnNMfs?si=zdI2U54BRI3WSql9
Goi'tardery epitomized🤦💨🙍💩🕳️
Onward with your curse as you pray to your Jewish failed Messiah and realize the reason it's called the crucifix is because if it was real it would be called the crucifact. May 5785 continue to chap your hide 🤢
One read, one new subscriber.
Is this not also the posture of many Zionists who make excuses for Israel's brutality through a victim narrative, one so complete in its narcissism it cannot admit any other people has ever suffered a genocide or that Jews in the Middle East can learn from anyone else's experience? Was this same grievance ideology not the foundation of the original fascist regimes of the early 20th century? In fact I might argue that the failure of fascism to take root in the English speaking works during the Depression has less to do with anti-fascists holding the line at Cable Street or Smedley Butler heroically reporting the Business Plot to Congress, than the fact that Anglos at the time had little interest in narratives of their own victimization.
you yet another version of the gassiest windbag version of Islamic deflectionism 🙄 and Israel derangement syndrome 😆🤭😜🤫🧠🤏
Gaza is precisely what the Western left says it hates: a racist, sexist, homophobic, militaristic, anti-Democratic, kleptocratic, dogmatically religious police state of science fictional inequity and oppression. And they love it more than anything in the world.
১১
Abe Greenwald
Executive Editor of Commentary Magazine
This is exactly the sort of moral idiocy I keep pointing out. Me good, them bad. Good people. Bad people. Good people. Bad people. They’re Bad, Bad, Bad, therefore we Good people don’t owe them any responsibility.
Can I interest you in some relics that signify and glorify European irrationality
The crown of thorns
A piece of the cross
Blood of Christ
The nappies of the infant Jesus
Another piece of the cross
Blood from a picture of Christ
The chain
Sacred cloth inserted in a picture
Stone from the tomb
Milk of the Virgin Mary
The spear
A victorious cross (Titulus)
The purple mantle
The reed
The sponge
A part of Christ's shroud (sudarii)
The towel used to dry the Apostles' feet
Moses' rod
A part of John the Baptist's head
St. Blas' head
St. Clement's head
St. Simeon's head
My favorite that's not on the list was the bottled last breath of St Philip, and hear you are of that genealogy coming at Jews with a chip on your shoulder and a sense of superiority and knowledge yet you're an ignorant cunt
lmao, you think you can upset me by blaspheming Christianity? I’ve never been a Christian, I’ve rocked out to metal music with far more obscene blasphemies than you could ever come up with. And just like I’m not a Christian, I never said anything about Jews, but about ISRAEL, which is a state that more than half of the world’s Jews don’t even live in! The crybullying of Israel’s apologists grows ever shriller, but nobody gives a fuck anymore. We’ve heard it all before. Now that the Trump administration is destroying what’s left of America’s alliance and trade system, Israel is out of friends and out of options. America can’t protect them. The world has no sympathy for them, especially not Russia and China. Many of their best and most talented citizens are leaving for the west. If Israel does not come to some sort of modus vivendi with Levantine Muslims soon, it will go the way of Rhodesia.
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It didn’t ossify as time went on. It was pure os from the beginning.
Well said. Thank you. Ideologies that build on resentment and a pure division between good and evil players don't lead to a good outcome. Nevertheless they are very attractive for the reasons you state above. We see this with Marxism (and the current neo-Marxism) and with radical Islam. Highly recommend the book, Black Wave, by Kim Ghattras. It talks about the ideas and philosophies stemming from many sources over decades that eventually led to the tyrannical Islamic Republic in Iran. These ideas also destabilized other Middle Eastern countries (Lebanon, Pakistan) in horrific ways. When I see this kind of ideology gaining traction anywhere, particularly in countries without a strong democratic tradition, I have a sinking feeling.
I would say that 90% of western people view the Muslims of the Middle East, with all their chanting and demonstrations in the streets, as being unstable idiots, incapable of managing themselves. There is some justification for this.
Outstanding. Shared on my blog (Spin, Strangeness, and Charm)
Decolonizing methodologies do not involve cultural appropriation, lies, deception nor conveniently misreading colonial history.
That's the trouble with Pro- Palestinian discourse.
Israel was not a colonial power that stole Arab land and then subjected them. That's simply a false narrative. A colonial people do not arrive as refugees and genocide survivors. They don't arrive landless , buy land parcels collectively for mutual survival. Its a big stretch to condemn 'settler colonialsm' when the land you are buying is your ancestral homeland, and when your people have lived continuously there for millenia, the evidence surrounding you and in the very place names. Colonial powers subjugate native populations by imposed government and social structures upon them. The Ottomans and Arab Caliphates were colonial powers for 1200 years who subjected and exploited both the Arab Fellahin and non Muslim communities. The Arab-Palestinian Muslims are in fact the colonial population, having dominant status for centuries indeed, it is the loss of that political status and religious dominance that produced their greatest opposition. The Arab population simply could not share land rights and political power with non-Muslims and ethnic minorities. The same thing happened when Britain vacated India, except Pakistani Muslims had the sense to accept partition, in fact chose it. Instead , Arab leadership declared war and tried to erase Israel out of sight. This created the Nakba. Their big lie is that it was all Israel's fault. Settler conialsm pushed Arabs off their land. Actually , the land was never theirs. It belong to the Sultan, leased or sold only by his grace and favour. It was the Sultan who violated Arab miri rights and allowed the land to be sold, many Fellahin displaced.
Palestinian discourse appropriates Jewish history as a way of erasing it. Canaan becomes Palestine, Arabs become indigenous, the original Jews of Canaan- which is an unethical , false ,misread of genetics. They also misapply Holocaust lexicon to themselves while trying to remove it from Jewish history...ghetto, concentration camp, famine, genocide. Some Western personalities take the lead here, Yanis Varoufakis, Finklestein, Bartov. They assert a form of Jewish Holocaust denial , mainly so that actual history doesn't interfere with their false polemic. But they freely apply the Jewish experience to Palestinians- a deceptive inversion of the facts. The only Holocaust industry was in Germany, and those anti -zionist writers know it full well. Jesus was not a Muslim Palestinian, as has been said all over social media. Jesus was Joshua, a practicing Jew. Many westerners actually don't know that and don't care. We lost the religious foundations of a moral compass. So lies slip into the Palestine sympathy campaign quite easily.
Debunking another lie, there are no genocide charges against Israel - the ICJ rejected them. However, not before the propagandists picked it up and went with it. The accusation is everywhere but it's purely a linguistic weapon without substance. It's propaganda. Also, it conveniently ignores that Hamas used the entire civilian population as human shields.
Yes. Decolonizing as resistance is a lie making Israelis oppressors of the ethnic Arab population.
What a load of pretentious waffle.
Half baked analysis from another brown sellout.
When they are told, “Do not spread corruption in the land,” they reply, “We are only peace-makers!”
So well written it's quotable. Whilst there is merit in both self-reflection and a more complete international understanding of the interactions of different cultures - history as a morality-play is simplistic to the point of self-deceiving and this is no-where truer than seeing Russia - the world's longest enduring, largest and mostly northerly empire, remaking its image as somehow part of the victimised 'global south'.
Brilliant! You are totally right, voicing concerns I also had on the 'decolonial moment' that we now face. This decolonial 'thinking' has gone berserk, and is leading people into a cultural and intellectual void and will not further the causes of reason and justice.